however, that 175,000 new visitors will add a lot to the city's economy to the tune of about 180 million a year in current dollars. when the convention expansion opens, that number will be even bigger because of inflation. and that breaks down into categories like lodging and restaurants and retail trade and transportation. a second point is because the demand for hotel which is driven by the moscone expansion is bigger than the supply, that means that it's very likely that hotel rates in san francisco will rise simply because demand exceeds supply as a result of this. and what that means is it seems very likely that the hotel industry will benefit from higher rates even given their assessment on the convention center. from the perspective of the hotel industry, the expansion project will pay for itself. i'll get to the question of whether it kind of pays for itself from the city's perspective in a moment. but with that success, also because it's going to be very favorable for the city's hotel industry, it's likely that city's repayment risk [speaker not understood] of cops is quite low,